Both drawers feel to have a smooth natural finish on the wood. I'm laughing hysterically right now. Kitchens and bathrooms. Appearance stamps on plywood range from cabinet-grade (A) to construction grade (C and D). The American drawer front feels tight. Get an instant, vendor-neutral estimate of Plywood Cabinet options and costs in your zip code.Our cost guide has been updated for 2021 to reflect current fair wages and material option costs for Plywood Cabinets. 10/11/2017 - Dianna Mickison from No, WA. You select the cabinet size, configuration, wood type, color, style, finish, level of detail, etc. The sink base cabinet (or bases) are the only kitchen cabinets that will most likely be subjected to minor water exposure, such as a leaky drain pipe or cleaning bottle spill that may cause more noticeable damage to a particle board cabinet than a plywood cabinet. Moreover, the best quality materials are used (the body, drawers and shelves, as well as cabinet doors). To level the playing field, let's compare an all-plywood model by the Design House brand to a similar model by Kitchen Cabinet Kings: In comparison, high-quality wood cabinets can last 50 years or longer. Signs your cabinets are eligible to be resurfaced or repaired: Before spending the money, time, and effort it takes to repair cabinets you want to be sure that you are making the right decision. But how much less? The American cabinet uses front to back I braces to strengthen the cabinet box, whereas the Chinese cabinet doesn’t have anything to stabilize the top of the cabinet box other than a tiny plastic corner brace. C-grade is unsanded and may have several minor defects that will need to be repaired with knots up to 1 1/2-inches across, discoloration and sanding defects. Most people do not want to pay for the quality of the high end product that can be done here in states by even the smallest mom and pop cabinet shops. This sounds like an incredible long period of time, and cabinets are in fact one of the longest lasting components of your entire kitchen. Depending on the quality of the wood cabinets you purchase, the amount of time they will last will vary. They are lighter, stronger and hold up better than an MDF cabinet box – but that’s a conversation for another post. According to a survey by the National Association of Home Builders the following kitchen appliances last on average: If you are going to need to replace other parts of your kitchen soon it’s important to keep this in mind when picking out new cabinets, for both style and budgetary reasons. Both cabinets contain dovetail drawers, but when compared side by side, the American Drawer box is clearly superior. You can remove the old thermofoil and paint the MDF substrate to bring new life to yellowed or scratched-up cabinets, although this will change the look of the cabinets. In response to your comments, I think you missed the point. It must also be remembered that these coaches were not built to last 100 years... they were built with a 5 (+ or -) year life expectancy. I would much rather have plywood over particle board. Beside CDX, you can also find better grades, such as ABX, ACX and even BCX. Durability of Thermofoil vs. Wood Cabinets. How much do I use the kitchen? 04/19/2018 - Scott from Los Angeles, CA, Particle board vs. plywood Simply removing the drawers and refacing them will not fix the problem. If yes, your problem might be water damage. Design Versatility of Plywood Cabinets. Because they are made by expert carpenters, it can take as long as 3-5 months to get them. Overall I want to get the best value for my dollar. Although the Chinese cabinet is made of plywood, the plywood has a significant warp to it, while the American made furniture board is extremely flat. That's the number one reason to buy American made. The deeper the finish looks and the smoother it feels, generally means the higher quality finish. Wood has started to blacken, or otherwise change colors. Even if you purchase all new cabinets you will not be able to stop the problem from happening again if you do not first solve the issue that caused your original cabinets to wear out. If your cabinets are hard to access and require removing items in order to reach other items tucked in the back. All rights reserved. Don't forget your local custom cabinet maker. The investment you'll make in your new maple wood cabinets will vary depending on the size of your kitchen. If only one is the best, MDF or Wood, than why would I want a door that consisted of bo… Scott, thanks for watching. While both of these materials offer tremendous strength for long-lasting cabinets, plywood features greater stability and better resistance to moisture. High-quality 11-ply plywood, including veneer, is used in this custom-cabinet drawer. It’s no secret that Chinese cabinetry is significantly cheaper than the vast majority of American Made cabinetry. The interior of the drawers appears comparable. Dave That doesn’t mean it’s always a bad idea to repair over replace, in fact sometimes it’s smarter to resurface cabinets than to buy completely new ones. At a glance, in a completed kitchen remodel, the cabinets may appear comparable, but a detailed examination quickly reveals several key components in the cabinet construction that make a quality cabinet worth the extra money. When it’s time to replace your kitchen cabinets you might be concerned with the overall costs. (See our custom kitchen cabinet page for a description of stock, semi-custom, and custom cabinets). Since age alone can’t tell you if it’s time to replace your cabinets, what can? This will include replacing certain parts and bleaching out stains, a process that can take some time and money. American made cabinets are clearly superior to Chinese cabinetry in every factor except price. No. Do you really want your children exposed to unknown chemicals in the cabinet finish? Is this scenario the ONLY reason to avoid particle board? Enter your options and zip code above - then select "Update". However, I will provide a tip based on my experience as a cabinet professional. "Re people should get their lazy butts up and look for it at the store", most people not in the design / cabinetry business have no idea what they are looking at, or should be looking for, in a store. Someone replied with a statement, that a good particle board cabinet is better than a bad plywood cabinet. Calculate upper cabinet sizes the same way. Mold can grow from so many different surfaces, including your kitchen cabinets. Another way people easily spruce up a solid set of cabinets is by adding new hardware, such as handles that make a refreshed statement. To my knowledge, the vast majority of Chinese cabinets come as is, no warranty at all, but I have seen warranties with limited periods such as 1, 3, or in some cases 5 years. They were in great condition, but just weren’t ma’ jam. Those two staples in the Chinese pictures do a lot to stabilize the joint, for very long time. Plus, some cabinets don’t hold up as well as others, meaning not all cabinets are going to last for 50 years—not even close. The doors are the most outdated part that you don’t like. You need to compare apples to apples and really learn how the cabinets are built before deciding. Refacing your cabinets allows you to re-style and update wood without spending a fortune, but that doesn’t mean refacing cabinetry is cheap. If you buy your house used you might not even know the exact age of your cabinets. Since cabinets can last for such a long time, this is a very popular remodeling technique. The cabinets structural integrity is gone and other distortions may occur. In order to accomplish this without a hitch, classic style cabinets make the safest long-term investments. In some minor instances, water damaged cabinets can be fixed. Good luck. If the cabinet box is too worn for you to re-drill new holes or mount new hinges, the structure of the cabinet box will not be sound enough to support new cabinet doors. That's one long run-on rant you posted, completely free of any punctuation. Formaldehyde is in American made carpet and many other household items. Though excessive and long term exposure to water could effect it, its structural integrity will stay in tact over a much longer period of time. Even most full custom lines are using particle board, MDF, or some type of engineered lumber as its standard box construction. Good cabinets should use 1/2", 5/8" or 3/4" plywood construction. They are both face frame cabinets, they are both full overlay, shaker door styles, and they are both standard sizes with no modifications. Obviously, there are limitations to that warranty, but the bottom line is that we expect our cabinets to last a lifetime. 10/03/2019 - Rod Kreinbrink from Port Charlotte, FL, Most info is accurate Cut ¼” plywood to make the doors to fit these openings. Standard in-stock sizes fit many needs. They will live in your community, therefore, be more invested in maintaining their reputation should something go wrong. The drawer guides also appear comparable. The Chinese cabinet uses staples, many of which missed the connecting piece completely. If you consider a kitchen renovation, get estimates. The Chinese bottom panel is only inset on three sides and stapled on the back side. Eventually it gets down to the question: does it make more economic sense to get a new car, or continue making repairs? If your cabinets are warping due to humidity, a humidifier can help slow down the damage. In this instance, you will want to identify the reasons your cabinets have worn out beyond repair to make sure that the same problem does not happen again. Here are signs of more serious water damage if the: The first step is always to find and then stop the source of the water from getting into the wood. For instance, if you open 2 cabinet doors at once and they slam into one another. I don't think this site makes a particularly good argument for US over China made. Do I like my kitchen to be a visual focal point? The only area I vary slightly is the plywood/particle board comparison. Exterior plywood carries an X stamp, which identifies it as suitable for use outdoors. In general, high quality cabinets can last up to 50 years. It comes in 3/4-, 5/8- and 1/2-inch thicknesses. We all know that china has far less environmental regulations than the united states, so we have no way of knowing what type of unregulated chemicals and glue are holding the plywood together. Certain factors can cause your kitchen cabinets to wear away faster, no matter their original quality. The bottom panel of the American drawer is slightly thicker and is inset on all four sides of the drawer. If you use similar grades, the engineering specs are the same. This forces any installer to rebuild the cabinet just to make them work. Many homeowners begin restoring original cabinets, and get 70% through the project before wishing they had just replaced the cabinets. First of all I am talking about the doors, and drawer fronts, not the cabinet box. On average it will cost around $150 to replace each door and/or drawer on your cabinets. Mold is usually caused by a water leak somewhere, so at the first sign of mold you should identify the source of water so that the problem does not continue to occur. Apparently, your own "butt" is far too "lazy" to even hit the question mark or period key on a keyboard, yet you disparage others for making the effort to educate themselves before heading out to a store and spending thousands of dollars. And they can usually do other things: mudrooms, laundry rooms, etc. I researched this with high-end cabinet companies that I sold. The drawers do not open without getting stuck, making an odd sound, or causing some sort of issue. Because of all kitchen cabinets must endure, they often need to be replaced before other cabinets in your home installed at the same time. If so, this is a sign that your cabinets are badly damaged will soon fall apart completely. When installing your kitchen cabinets they can feel pretty permanent, and they should be. While plywood will get wet too, its expansion and distortion is minimal. After working for 15 years as an handyman and cabinet installer, I would have to agree with almost everything in the article. Refacing cabinets means to update the doors, paint the exterior, and place a layer of veneer on the cabinet box. I’m sure there are exceptions, but I’ve found that while many products will outlast their warranty, a warranty is a pretty good indicator of how long the cabinet maker expects their cabinets to hold up. Typically plywood is the more expensive cabinet box construction, but check the thickness before you decide to go plywood. I think your video is probably selling a lot of Chinese cabinets. In other instances, cabinets prematurely wear out long before they should. I know this for sure; once the kitchen is installed using RTA cabinets from China, the customer is friggen thrilled that they paid around 35% of what so-called American cabinets were selling for. Now, to install these cabinets, I used shims to level them up … Most people are generally aware of why Chinese goods are less expensive and are typically equally aware that the quality of the goods, like the price, is also less. There is a lot of hype regarding American made. A standard 10- by 12-foot kitchen equipped with top-and-bottom maple RTA cabinets can run from $2,500 to $6,000. 03/14/2018 - P Marks from Merritt Island, FL, Kitchen cabinets are not created equal We'll help you find the best type to fit your kitchen's personality and meet your storage needs. They are not a showroom, marking cabinets up 100% or more on cabinets made elsewhere. When mold is caught early on it can be cleaned up and stopped, but when mold is left unidentified it will continue to grow and worsen. Plywood will warp and split in moist conditions. At New Leaf Cabinets, we pride ourselves on providing a VIP cabinet experience from the moment you initiate contact with us and throughout the lifespan of your kitchen. Painted cabinets aren’t exactly budget-friendly. But in no way is a particle board cabinet always superior. Your budget will dictate so many decisions in cabinetry. This topic is complex and a little true education & preparation goes a long way. If the cabinets open up all wrong. Feel free to email us at anytime info@topscabinet.net and we will get back to you as soon as possible. It’s worth it. Hey, Dianna - If the overall function of your cabinets does not work for you, this is another sign that you may want to replace instead of repair. This will give you two 3-feet-wide cabinets on the ends and a 2-foot-wide cabinet in the middle. 07/03/2018 - NmgCle from Cleveland, OH, Plywood VS Particle Board As we go through some of the key differences, some of the differences will be more common among the majority of manufacturers, other differences may be more specific to each individual manufacturer. This adds up, but not as quickly as entirely new cabinets. Overall, you still appreciate the general function, size, layout and design of your cabinets. In addition to a perfect fit, the American cabinet pieces are also secured together with pocket screws and glue. The first two will range from A to D. Sheets of plywood that are rated with an A have the fewest blemishes and are often used for finished projects like cabinets or furniture. As for 'people and their lazy butts', apparently you are too lazy to even use punctuation. A 1-1/2″-thick, 12″+ long, 25″ wide slab of walnut simply wasn’t in my budget. There are countless kitchen cabinet sizes, styles and designs. Check over your cabinets for any signs of warping or swelling, especially cabinets regularly exposed to humidity and water. Upon further examination, there are several reasons for this. 10/11/2017 - Scott from Chandler, AZ, Idk Here is a fact, you showed one of the best samples of an American made cabinet and the worst Chinese cabinet. Considering the average kitchen is only remodeled once every 30 years, Most people want their cabinets to last far more than 5 years. Behind the cherry, birch, or maple doors of a kitchen cabinet is the wood used to construct the cabinet box—the back, sides, top, shelves, and bottom. It’s heavier, the pieces fit perfectly, and it simply feels like one solid unit. Without the ability to work with the current wood, your entire cabinet box needs to be replaced; otherwise you risk wasting a lot of money trying to make unsuccessful repairs. 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